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Obots Say Hawaii Issues Only
Short-Form Birth Certificates
This is what FReeper Danae received from the Hawaii
Department of Health (HDOH) around the first of October,
2010, after requesting a copy of her current Hawaiian
long-form, birth certificate. These photos were taken
by Danae using her iPhone.
What motivated her to do
this was the contention of the Hawaii Department of Health, Obots and
Gullibles that Hawaii
no longer issues long-form birth certificates.
Personal information
has been
redacted. They images are not photo shopped or otherwise
manipulated.
And, now, ALL of the documents I have all together in one
place:
Note the next two documents, the Black and White has MORE
information on it than does the copy Danae received from her
mother in 2000. That isn't a photo copy of a
photocopy. It is a color photocopy that was in my
mothers possession and then given to me when Danae had her
wallet stolen in Arizona in 2000 on the way to San Diego.
The water marks are clearly there in the color copy, and
aren't a part of the original. Its a mark on the paper
you see in the picture. Where is the staple? It
is PHYSICALLY present on my copy! WHERE ARE THE FOLD
MARKS?
It is OBVIOUS. The black and white photo copy
was NOT made from mine. It was sent to me by HDOH
after THEY photocopied my Long Form which is in their
possession.
My New Birth Certificate
I did request a copy of my Long form. I wanted to
prove that not only do the originals still exist (I was born in 69 at
Kaiser Hospital), but that copies could be obtained. I was seeking
the document for a real purpose as well, but that's not relevant to this
discussion.
My first request was done in March of 2010. By
mid April I had gotten no copy, in fact there was not a peep from the
State of Hawaii. However, my Dad was in the final stages of a
losing battle with cancer, so I wasn’t to focused on anything but him
and my family.
By Mid August after my Dad passed in June, I was
ready to take it up again, and called the HDOH. They could not
find my request. 10 bucks gone. Ok, fine, so I sent another
one -- which included a photo copy of my Oregon Driver’s license and my
Passport and another western Union check for 10 bucks, and I sent it
Return Receipt Requested so that I could PROVE it was received by
HDOH. 3 weeks pass and nothing so I call the office, and again
they can’t find it, though I followed the specific instructions I was
given to send it attention to Dr. Onaka himself they couldn't find it.
So like the obstinate chick I am I demanded to speak to a supervisor.
Eventually I was passed along to Dr. Onaka’s secretary who finally
found my request in a "Stack" of such requests that Dr. Onaka had not
dealt with. I was informed that the Dr. was out of the state until
next week, and that I had to wait until she could speak to him before
honoring my request. This despite the fact that the HDOH is
REQUIRED BY LAW to make these documents available upon request from
anyone with genuine interests in them.
I was told he would be
back the following Monday. So I made the call at about 4PM Pacific
time and spoke to Onaka’s secretary again. She put me on hold to
go ask Onaka if she could release the document.
Low and behold,
on the phone comes Onaka. I was not expecting that. He asked
me why I wanted it, which he is not legally allowed to base his decision
on. I told him. He then asked me if I needed a Certified
Copy or not. I answered honestly that I didn’t know. In
reality as far as FR is concerned, I just wanted to prove that 1) the
actual original record still existed, and 2) that I could get a copy of
it. Onaka revealed that I could also get a CERTIFIED copy by
asking me if that is what I wanted.
I further asked Onaka if the
Originals were even kept, because he actually tried to talk me into
believing that all they offered was the laser printed COLB’s. I
said no. I needed the Original because I needed the specific
information on it for genealogical reasons, which was my main purpose.
A COLB does NOT suffice for all purposes, and he knew it. He asked
me for the name of the organization I was requesting it for, along with
the phone number and address. I gave him those, and he told me he
would be calling them to check, and that he would call me back.
Well he never called me back, but I did get the copy of my Original
Certificate of Live Birth, signed by the Dr. and my mother a couple of
days later. It matches what I already have, and in fact has more
information on it that the copy I myself had.
That whole CNN
story is bullsh!t from start to finish.