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Obots Say Hawaii Issues Only Short-Form Birth Certificates

This is what FReeper Danae received from the Hawaii Department of Health (HDOH) around the first of October, 2010, after requesting a copy of her current Hawaiian long-form, birth certificate.  These photos were taken by Danae using her iPhone.

What motivated her to do this was the contention of the Hawaii Department of Health, Obots and Gullibles that Hawaii no longer issues long-form birth certificates.

Personal information has been redacted.  They images are not photo shopped or otherwise manipulated.
     And, now, ALL of the documents I have all together in one place:
    
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Note the next two documents, the Black and White has MORE information on it than does the copy Danae received from her mother in 2000.  That isn't a photo copy of a photocopy.  It is a color photocopy that was in my mothers possession and then given to me when Danae had her wallet stolen in Arizona in 2000 on the way to San Diego.
    
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The water marks are clearly there in the color copy, and aren't a part of the original.  Its a mark on the paper you see in the picture.  Where is the staple?  It is PHYSICALLY present on my copy!  WHERE ARE THE FOLD MARKS?

It is OBVIOUS. The black and white photo copy was NOT made from mine.  It was sent to me by HDOH after THEY photocopied my Long Form which is in their possession.
My New Birth Certificate
I did request a copy of my Long form. I wanted to prove that not only do the originals still exist (I was born in 69 at Kaiser Hospital), but that copies could be obtained.  I was seeking the document for a real purpose as well, but that's not relevant to this discussion.

My first request was done in March of 2010.  By mid April I had gotten no copy, in fact there was not a peep from the State of Hawaii.  However, my Dad was in the final stages of a losing battle with cancer, so I wasn’t to focused on anything but him and my family.

By Mid August after my Dad passed in June, I was ready to take it up again, and called the HDOH.  They could not find my request.  10 bucks gone.  Ok, fine, so I sent another one -- which included a photo copy of my Oregon Driver’s license and my Passport and another western Union check for 10 bucks, and I sent it Return Receipt Requested so that I could PROVE it was received by HDOH.  3 weeks pass and nothing so I call the office, and again they can’t find it, though I followed the specific instructions I was given to send it attention to Dr. Onaka himself they couldn't find it.  So like the obstinate chick I am I demanded to speak to a supervisor.

Eventually I was passed along to Dr. Onaka’s secretary who finally found my request in a "Stack" of such requests that Dr. Onaka had not dealt with.  I was informed that the Dr. was out of the state until next week, and that I had to wait until she could speak to him before honoring my request.  This despite the fact that the HDOH is REQUIRED BY LAW to make these documents available upon request from anyone with genuine interests in them.

I was told he would be back the following Monday.  So I made the call at about 4PM Pacific time and spoke to Onaka’s secretary again.  She put me on hold to go ask Onaka if she could release the document.

Low and behold, on the phone comes Onaka.  I was not expecting that.  He asked me why I wanted it, which he is not legally allowed to base his decision on.  I told him.  He then asked me if I needed a Certified Copy or not.  I answered honestly that I didn’t know.  In reality as far as FR is concerned, I just wanted to prove that 1) the actual original record still existed, and 2) that I could get a copy of it.  Onaka revealed that I could also get a CERTIFIED copy by asking me if that is what I wanted.

I further asked Onaka if the Originals were even kept, because he actually tried to talk me into believing that all they offered was the laser printed COLB’s.  I said no.  I needed the Original because I needed the specific information on it for genealogical reasons, which was my main purpose.  A COLB does NOT suffice for all purposes, and he knew it.  He asked me for the name of the organization I was requesting it for, along with the phone number and address.  I gave him those, and he told me he would be calling them to check, and that he would call me back.  Well he never called me back, but I did get the copy of my Original Certificate of Live Birth, signed by the Dr. and my mother a couple of days later.  It matches what I already have, and in fact has more information on it that the copy I myself had.

That whole CNN story is bullsh!t from start to finish.
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