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Post from Socialist= s=20 for Obama:

How the jewish lobby works

By Juan=20 Carlos from Knoxville, TN - Jun 7th, 2008 at = 9:13 pm=20 EDT

Also listed in: Tennessee=20 Action Team | Tennessee=20 for Obama '08

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How The Jewish Lobby = Works

How The Jewish = Lobby Works=20

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HOW THE JEWISH LOBBY WORKS
By = Brother=20 Nathanael Kapner - Copyright =A9 2008
All Articles May Be = Reproduced Only=20 With Authorship of Br Nathanael Kapner
& Link To Real Jew=20 News
Please Help Support This Site! = (Many=20 Expenses)

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Brother Nathanael Kapner; PO = Box 170;=20 Dillon CO 80435; Email: bronathanael@yahoo.com =

Sources:=20 Jewish Power: Inside the Jewish Establishment, J.J. = Goldberg;=20 The Modern Jewish Experience, Dr. Jack Wertheimer; = Imperial=20 Designs, Gary Dorrien; The Israel Lobby and US Foreign=20 Policy, Mearscheimer & Walt Here.
=97=97=20
NO LOBBY IS FEARED MORE or catered to by = politicians=20 than the Jewish Lobby. If a politician does not play ball with the = Jewish=20 Lobby, he will not get elected, or re-elected, and he = will either=20 be smeared or ignored by the Jewish-owned major media.

All Jewish lobbies and organizations are interconnected and = there are=20 hundreds upon hundreds of them. The leaders of the numerous = Jewish=20 Lobby Groups go to the same synagogues, country clubs, and = share the=20 same Jewish investment bankers. And this inter-connectedness = extends to=20 the Jews who run the Federal Reserve Bank, US Homeland Security, = and the=20 US State Department.

In other words, =93Jews stick together.=94 Americans must know = how=20 extremely powerful the Jewish Lobby is and how = it=20 operates to undermine America=92s interests both at home and = abroad. At home=20 - by corrupting America=92s political system, and abroad - by = dictating=20 American Foreign Policy against America=92s best interests.

Here is a list of the major Jewish Lobby Groups & = how they=20 work:

3D"" =20 American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC): = AIPAC=20 has a staff of over 150 employees and an annual budget of over $60 = million=20 Here derived from private=20 contributions from wealthy Jews and Jewish-owned businesses. In = other=20 words, =93money corrupts & Jewish money corrupts the American = political=20 system absolutely.=94

~ AIPAC has many =93PACS=94 attached to their = Lobby. PACS=20 are =93Public Action Committees,=94 sanctioned by Federal Law, = that give=20 huge donations to political candidates. PACS are the = means by=20 which AIPAC and all Jewish lobbies utilize the = immense=20 wealth of Jewry to bribe US politicians. AIPAC is currently = lobbying for=20 the US to attack Iran Here & Here. = AIPAC=92s=20 Executive Director is the powerful Anti-Christian Jew, Howard = Kohr.

3D"" =20 American Jewish Congress (AJC): Its antecedents = began in=20 1918 when Woodrow Wilson=92s =93influential friends,=94 Rabbi = Stephen Wise,=20 (founder of AJC in 1930), and Judge Louis Brandeis, (co-founder),=20 participated Here<= /A>=20 in the drafting of the infamous Versailles Treaty of 1919 = which=20 made unreasonable demands on Germany.

~ In the 1930=92s, the AJC led a major boycott = of German=20 goods in America, which, among other provocations of the Jews, = prompted a=20 backlash against the Jews in Germany Here.

~ Currently, the AJC works with pandering = Congressman=20 and =93bought=94 Senators like Senator Jeff Bingaman to push = through Bills=20 with Zionist agendas Here.=20 The AJC also has many =93PACS.=94 AJC=92s Executive Director is = the powerful=20 Anti-Christian Jew, Neil B. Goldstein.

3D"" =20 Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish = Organizations:=20 51 of the largest Jewish organizations come together = regularly Here=20 under the umbrella group of the Conference. Their Mission = Statement reads, =93Forging diverse groups [there is no such as = =93diverse=94 in=20 Jewry] into a unified force to foster the special US-Israel = relationship=94=20 Here.=20 The Conference also has many =93PACS.=94 The = Conferences=92=20 Executive Chairman is the powerful Anti-Christian Jew, Malcolm I.=20 Hoenlein.

3D""=20 = Jewish=20 Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA): Founded = in 1976=20 by Jewish neocons Richard Perle & Eliot Abrams. Its mission is = to=20 promote US aid to Israel with military hardware Here = & Here. JINSA has = its Jewish=20 tentacles everywhere including the US Department of Defense = = Here.

~ JINSA has a formidable array of Washington = power=20 players on its rolls. Prior to Bush=92s Presidency, JINSA=92s = Board of=20 Advisers included Dick Cheney, Elliot Abrams (now the Deputy = National=20 Security Advisor for Global Democracy Strategy), John Bolton (now = Under=20 Secretary of State for Arms Control) and Douglas Feith, who was = Bush=92s=20 third-highest-ranking executive in the Pentagon. Cheney, Abrams, = and=20 Bolton are still in power having as their well-connected = supporters, the=20 Jews of JINSA.

~ Part of JINSA=92s annual budget is spent on = providing=20 lavish =93educational=94 trips to Israel for key politicians & = high=20 ranking US military personnel. Northrop Grumman, = (Feith=92s Law=20 Firm represents Northrop Grumnan Here), = which=20 has sold ships, Hawkeye planes, and radar systems to Israel, are = also=20 represented in the JINSA membership. [Good networking for those=20 Jewish-influenced contracts! Here ] =

~ JINSA=92s President is the powerful = Anti-Christ Jew,=20 Norman Hascoe. JINSA=92s National Chairman is the powerful = Anti-Christ Jew,=20 (he is also McCain=92s Fund Raiser Here), Mark = Broxmeyer, a NY=20 Real Estate Tycoon.

3D"" =20 Middle East Forum (MEF): It=92s Mission = Statement=20 Here reads, = =93The Middle=20 East Forum seeks to promote American interests in the Middle East. = We=20 define U.S. interests to include fighting radical Islam whether=20 terroristic or lawful [dropping US cluster bombs on Arab children = in Gaza=20 Strip & shutting off fuel and water supplies to the Gazans]; = working=20 for Palestinian acceptance of Israel; [ethnic cleansing of = Palestinians=20 until only 1 Palestinian is left to =93accept=94 Israel]; and = countering the=20 Iranian threat [bribing US politicians to declare war on Iran].=94 =

~ MEF=92s Director is the powerful = Anti-Christian Jew,=20 Daniel Pipes.

3D"" =20 Zionist Organization Of America (ZOA): Founded in = 1897 to=20 promote political Zionism. Currently the ZOA has over = 30,000=20 members in every major US city Here.

The ZOA boasts on its Web Site:

=97 =93The = ZOA has=20 played a key role in Congress [bribes] regarding victims of = terrorism=20 [Jews only/Jews are rarely =93innocent victims=94]; keeping = Jerusalem unified=20 under Israeli sovereignty [illegal settlements in the West Bank]; = fighting=20 Hamas and Fatah [US-made cluster bombs dropped on Arab children in = Gaza=20 Strip]; and working on the imposition of sanctions on Syria and = Saudi=20 Arabia [and the illegal invasion of Iraq where not a = single=20 Jewish soldier from America has died!].=94 =97 = ZOA=92s National=20 President is the powerful Anti-Christian Jew, Morton A. Klein. = 3D""=20

HOW CAN WE STOP THE JEWISH LOBBY?=20

Here are 3 options:=20

1) Commit suicide.

2) Write to your Senator warning him that = taking=20 bribes from Jews is a sin.

3) Never vote=20 again.

OR:
+ Pray = To The=20 Lord Jesus Christ To Either Convert The Jews Or Conquer Them = Through The=20 Power Of His Cross!

For More See: =93American Jewry=92s = World Wide=20 Web=94 Click=20 Here=20

And: =93How The Jews Took Washington=94 Click=20 Here

And: =93McCain Bows To Jewish Money=94 Click=20 Here

And: =93Jews Run The US State Department=94 Click=20 Here

CLICK= :=20 Brother = Nathanael=85Street=20 Evangelist!=20

Please Help Support This Site! (Many = Expenses)

Or Please Send Your Contribution To:
Brother Nathanael = Kapner
PO=20 Box 170
Dillon CO 80435
Email: = bronathanael@yahoo.com

admin @ April 14, 2008

=AB Iraq: A War For The = Jews?=20 Interviews! Why Am I=20 Called An Anti Semite? =BB 49 Comments

Brenda http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/juancarlos= cruz/gG5BSr#comment-1823=20
American Christians have a duty and responsibilty before = God.

They must live their lives fully as Christians.

On Judgement Day they will not be able to provide the excuse: = Lord, I=20 did not know.

American Christians have ample opportunity to KNOW what it is = that=20 God expects from them: through Scripture, and through those who = preach=20 the Word of God.

It is also the responsibility of every Christian to research, = find=20 and explore the Truth of their Faith.

Those who sit complacently by expecting =93others=94 to do = their job,=20 will be judged harshly.

Christ said that many will call out to him, =93Lord, Lord, = did we not=20 work miracles in your name?=94

He will say, =93Depart from Me, I knew you not.=94

When Brother Nathanael posts his exposure of such things as = the=20 Jewish Lobbys that are having a devastating effect upon our = American=20 Christian culture and we, as Christians effectively do nothing, = we are=20 choosing then to NOT be Christians. . . and that will have an=20 everlasting effect on others and our own souls.

Evil could not flourish in this society if Christians lived = their=20 Faith.

If Christians abided by the precepts laid before us by Christ = and the=20 Apostles, for example, bribery would have little effect.

If Christians did not live a shallow and materialistic = existence,=20 corruption would be less prevalent.

If a man=92s word were his bond, corruption could not abide = to the=20 degree that it does.

There will always be those who choose to do evil =97 but will = there=20 always be Christians to live holy lives in opposition to = Evil.

We shall see.
Loren http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/juancarlos= cruz/gG5BSr#comment-1828=20
Definitely. But in the many churches that I have been in over = the=20 years, some have taught and stressed =93touch not God=92s = anointed=94, often=20 times referring to the pastor and his elders/leaders/etc, the = effect=20 being, that even in bringing something =93into question=94 is a = gross=20 violation against those God has set into authority. = Consequently, the=20 tough questions never get asked, or if asked, not answered, or = if=20 answered, in the favor of those =93on top=94. So, in the context = of this=20 environment, it is next to impossible to bring up the topics = that are=20 discussed on this website, especially any that would criticise = =93the=20 Jews=94, because they are, after all, =93God=92s chosen = people=94, and so, can=20 do whatever they want to whomever they want, without = consequence. Which=20 is obviously, to anyone with a sound mind and a clear = conscience,=20 blatantly false.

Any honest reading through the Old Testament would give ample = evidence that God Himself has had more than one occasion when He = has=20 taken serious issue against =93His chosen people=94, even to the = point of=20 blasting them verbally through the prophets, even to the point = of=20 bringing forth judgments and wrath upon them. Would He be any = different=20 today towards =93the Jews=94, or even towards =93the = Christians=94? And should=20 =93the Christians=94 drop the ball (as =93the Jews=94 had done = previously), will=20 God choose another who will be responsive to Him? Yes.

=93Once saved, always saved=94 IS a false doctrine at the = least, and a=20 lie from hell at the most (ie, the serpent=92s lie =93surely you = will not=20 die=94). Lucifer was God=92s =93chosen=94 at the remote past, = but =93fell=94 from=20 his =93salvation=94. If he, who was before the very Throne of = God, in God=92s=20 Holy Presence, day after week after month after year .. AND YET, = turned=20 away and left and REBELLED and WAGED WAR =85 then so too can = =93God=92s chosen=20 people=94.

=93The Jews=94 turned away from their salvation when He = (Jesus) was here=20 in the flesh. They still await their messiah. A false one they = will=20 accept (the yet-to-be anti-christ), but the true One they = rejected - and=20 when the true One returns, He won=92t be coming in peace, but in = war=20 against ALL who oppose Him! including those of =93the Jews=94 = who oppose=20 Him! including those of =93the Christians=94 who have =93fallen = away=94 from=20 their faith.

The problem that John the Baptist had with King Herod was = that he=20 never brought gifts unto the King, but only the unadultered Word = of God!=20 As much as John grated against the King, the King admired John, = for he=20 knew that John would always tell him the truth, while his loyal=20 counselors would tell him only what he wanted to hear. In the = end,=20 however, John=92s =93speaking truth to power=94 cost him his = head - but not=20 his Eternity!

Christianity in this nation, for the most part, has not, and = is not,=20 willing to speak truth to power because Christians are not = willing to=20 lose their heads as John did, nor willing to sacrifice = themselves unto=20 the Truth, nor willing to take up their crosses, and follow the = One who=20 has called them unto purity.

For this, Jesus will spit them out of His mouth!

It is time to be as John the Baptist, to speak truth to = power, to=20 declare, and to live, the unadultered Word of God unto and = before ALL=20 (yet, with the mercy and graciousness of God, for where would = any of us=20 be without His mercy and graciousness?).

For example :

The Federal Reserve was from its inception of Satan. = Christians=20 should have nothing to do with this occult dark power and means = of=20 carnal lust-driven sustenance. But do we declare such? Or do we=20 willingly accept Federal Reserve Notes, and ask God to = bountifully bless=20 that which is inherently EVIL? Can God bless Satan? Can Light = bless=20 darkness? Can Love bless hatred? Can Life bless death?

On Day One of the Creation Account, God SEPARATED His Light = from=20 Lucifer/Satan=92s darkness.

SEPARATION! Be ye separate!

Be we, as Christians, have not separated ourselved from this = evil=20 institution of darkness called the Federal Reserve, but have = EMBRACED=20 IT!

Who is willing to go up against the Federal Reserve and to = declare=20 unto them the unadultered Word and Truth of God? Doing so will = cost=20 one=92s life, even as John the Baptist, even as JFK =85

But rather to have one=92s head cut off and gain Eternity, = than to have=20 Jesus spit one out of His mouth and lose Eternity.

After about a year or so after 9-11, I quit going to church, = because=20 I could no longer tolerate the blindness of so many claiming to = see.

When the President encouraged everyone to =93return to = business as=20 usual=94, he was cursing this Nation in returning to =93sin as = usual=94, and=20 sin has grown abundantly since! to the point that we have lost = all of=20 our Rights, all of our Freedoms, all of our Liberties, all of = our=20 Dignities as Americans, and now are at the point of God bringing = forth=20 Judgment against ALL of U.S.

=93For I will remove both the righteous and the wicked from = the land=94.=20 Things had gotten so bad in Old Testament Israel, that God = declared that=20 He would remove EVEN the righteous from the land, and remove = them=20 FIRST!

Christian, WAKE UP! THAT=92S YOU God is talking to! He WILL = REMOVE YOU=20 FIRST from the land, when He finally comes against this nation = in=20 judgment.

In great fear and trembling, let us humble ourselves before = the=20 Almighty God, and confess our sins unto Him and unto one = another. Let us=20 pray for the wicked, pray for the hungry, the homeless, the = fatherless,=20 the motherless, the righteous, the wicked. PRAY! Build up in = Scriptures.=20 Let the Spirit minister to our souls, and may the Peace of = Christ rule=20 in our hearts, as our Faith becomes more and more anchored in = Him, and=20 then, unwavering, humbled before God, and honest before Man, = with mercy=20 and graciousness and steadfastness,

declare the unadultered Word of God unto power, as John the = Baptist=20 did, and the many Prophets of God before him.

Before we can take this Nation back for Christ, we need to = take back=20 for Christ our own individual lives in obedience unto Him and in = what He=20 has called us forth to do.

Before we can speak Truth unto power, we need to live the = Truth=20 first.
Lynda http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/juancarlos= cruz/gG5BSr#comment-1829=20
=93Evil could not flourish in this society if Christians = lived their=20 Faith.=94

Thank you for this comment Brenda. I understand exactly where = you are=20 coming from on this one. I think Christianity in America (which = is very=20 diverse) should come more sharply into focus when it comes to = the Church=20 Militant and the responsibilities of the Church Militant.

In E Supremi Apostolatus, (1903), Pope St Pius X begins = =93Society at=20 the present time, more than in any past age, is suffering from a = terrible and a deep rooted malady=85apostacy from God.=94

And further to this he adds: =93All the strength of Satan=92s = reign is=20 due to

What? Or to Whom?

The Jews and their money
No

The Synagoge and its political extensions
No

Corrupt politicians
No

Banks who own nations and engineer wars and famines and = generally=20 boss people around
No

Idolatrous religions
No

Islam or Islamo-fascists
No

The general Christian who has a =91Jesus and Me=92 approach = to faith, who=20 thinks the church should not meddle in politics, who thinks the = Kingship=20 of Christ is only a spiritual concept and that Apostolic Law has = nothing=20 to do with the laws of nations and the temporal order because = =91you can=92t=20 legislate morality=92

None of the above

=93All the strength of Satan=92s reign is due to the = easy-going weakness=20 of Catholics=94 according to Pope St Pius X.

And what is on the Catholic itinerary for April? Why = Benedict=92s=20 visit, of course.

On (Jewish) Passover Eve, Benedict will be gathering with = =91our Elder=20 Brothers in the faith=92 and the Rabbis to pray at the Park East = Manhattan=20 Synagogue. =93Carl MacGowan, =93Rabbis Applaud Pope=92s Visit to = Manhattan=20 Synagogue=94 Newsday, April 3, 2008)

Every body else feels free to Take Offense - the Muslims if = you draw=20 a funny picture of Mahmoud, the Jews if you put a Nativity Scene = in the=20 school atrium, or some anointed victim if you say =92surgically = altered=92=20 instead of =91transgendered=92 or =91homosexual=92 instead of = =91gay=92.

So why aren=92t Catholics taking offense at this? Not that I = think=20 Benedict is the pope, but even the idea of the anti-pope praying = with=20 people who exult in the crucifixion of the Lord Jesus Christ and = curse=20 his name - as the Talmud does - shouldn=92t even the most tepid = forms of=20 Christianity find this to be repugnant?

Or what about the premier of The Sword of Constantine based = on James=20 Carroll=92s =93Constantine: the Church and the Jews=94 also = opens on Passover=20 Eve, April 18, 08.

Naturally, the media (for Goys) will go all ape on all = channels.=20 There will be a huge schtick on all =91the sins of the = Church=92.

Constantine was a Tetrarch of Rome. When the reign of = Diocletian=20 collapsed (probably under the sheer weight of Christians = martyred for=20 the faith), the Money Power (guess who) decided to make a cool = Matzoh by=20 having the 4 generals of the Roman Tetrarchy fight it out for = power.=20 This was an exciting time, they had the barbarians invading from = the=20 North, they had Christians being routinely carted off to the = arenas to=20 die as public entertainments, they had a huge international = slave=20 market. In a scene very reminiscent of today, all they needed = was a good=20 long war.

But it all backfired under the sign of the cross when the = armies of=20 Constantine were victorious. All he did was issue the Edict of = Milan=20 saying the Empire will now tolerate the Christian Faith. Well. = The=20 Chosen are still caterwauling about it. So this meritless film = premiers=20 on Passover Eve.

How many Christians are going to register their opposition to = this=20 farce? How many will say, well - let=92s have a week of feria: = boycott all=20 100 Goy channels, make only the most basic purchases=85

Whatever it takes.
Michael=20 Cecil http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/juancarlos= cruz/gG5BSr#comment-1831=20
Of the four options suggested above for =92stopping the = Jewish lobby=92,=20 my guess is that this civilization will, most likely, choose = option 1:=20 Commit suicide.

Senators do not believe in sin.

Voting or not voting makes no difference.

Muslims, Jews, Buddhists and atheists will never =91pray to = Jesus=92.

And any =91power=92 Jesus had was not in his =93cross=94, but = in his=20 Teaching=85

Which the media has made CERTAIN that, some 1970 years later, = not=20 even so much as ONE WORD remains; the Christians being followers = of Paul=20 rather than Jesus.

Michael Cecil

http://after-the-fals= e-peace.blogspot.com/

http://science-of-= consciousness.blogspot.com/
ShadowDancer http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/juancarlos= cruz/gG5BSr#comment-1832=20
If your Nation turns out to be a Beast Kingdom/Nation, = Mystery=20 Babylon, or the Beast of Revelation then God has already decreed = his=20 Judgment upon any who worship the Beast, the Image of the Beast, = or=20 Mystery Babylon. My consideration of Mystery Babylon is there is = a high=20 percentage Mystery Babylon builds the Globalist system of the = Beast.=20 Some think this is the New World Order.

Enter the False Prophets of various Religions who love & = adore=20 their Beast Kingdom/Nation, thus the Beast who think this Beast = is doing=20 God=92s work when the Beast was doing the Devil=92s work all = along.

Perhaps they are the False Apostacy that merely use Religion = &=20 the name of God in vain to perpetrate their own evil worldly = agenda=92s=20 upon the earth as man was doing long before Jesus was even born = of human=20 flesh.

The primary Beasts would have been the Govt.=92s of Herod = & Rome in=20 Jesus=92s time. The founders of the USA patterned their Nation = after Rome=20 according to my readings.

When the Israelites asked God for a King so they could be = like the=20 other Nations (envy) God told them a King would enslave them. = God knew=20 in their hearts they didn=92t want what he wanted for them so he = gave them=20 a King. Eventually they ended up with the Herod=92s & = Caesar=92s of=20 Rome. Perhaps God=92s idea of freedom and the world of man=92s = idea of=20 freedom are two different things.

Jesus taught his Father=92s Spiritual Kingdom that is not of = the world=20 of man, nor worldly things that can include worldly political=20 philosophies, religious philosophies, business philosophies, = educational=20 philosophies, and philosophies in general.

All man did was take Jesus and turn him back into Religion = then=20 started murdering and thieving in his name. & So this world = is now=20 as it is & is as prophecy has stated & will get worse as = time=20 goes along.
Lynda http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/juancarlos= cruz/gG5BSr#comment-1834=20
=93And any =91power=92 Jesus had was not in His =91cross=92 = but in his=20 Teaching.=94

You are a Heretic, Michael Cecil. On what possible basis = could you=20 make such a wicked statement.

The Testament to Jesus is written within the community of = faith,=20 namely the Church. The Gospels are the written Testament of the = Apostles=20 and sealed in the blood of their marytrdom (except for John the=20 Evangelist) and those of their bishops.

And you are telling the readers of Real Jew News that not one = word of=20 the Gospels remains? Really! Then where, then do you get one = word of=20 testament to the Teaching of Jesus if not from the Gospels? Your = statement is a nonsense in and of itself.

Here is what Jesus himself, according to the Testament of = John,=20 TEACHES about his cross.

=93Now is the judgment of the world: now shall the prince of = this world=20 be cast down.

=93And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all = things to=20 myself.

=93Now this he said to signify what death he should die.=94 = The Gospel=20 According to St John 12:31-33.DRV

=93Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of = this=20 world be cast down=94 is fundamentally a statment about power, = Michael=20 Cecil, or it is statement about nothing.

Therefore does St Paul, our Lord=92s Apostle to the Gentiles = say: =93The=20 cross is the power of God unto salvation.=94

Basically, Michael, you have no concept of Jesus or his = Teaching.
r http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/juancarlos= cruz/gG5BSr#comment-1837=20
Now i get it when THEY say WE are all connected.
krylon http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/juancarlos= cruz/gG5BSr#comment-1838=20
=93And any =91power=92 Jesus had was not in His =91cross=92 = but in his=20 Teaching.=94

You are a Heretic, Michael Cecil. On what possible basis = could you=20 make such a wicked statement.

lol, a =91heretic=92 ? The basis is: he spent 20 years doing = what=20 exactly? (teaching) and ONE DAY on the cross. I think your = missing the=20 point entirely. how is the statement =91wicked=92? and where do = you get off=20 calling people =91wicked heretics=92? A little judgemental for a = so-called=20 christian isnt it? I mean, you dont even know the man, and on = the basis=20 of one neutral comment your calling him an evil = person?
please=20 explain yourself=85pleeeaasse=85
admin http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/juancarlos= cruz/gG5BSr#comment-1839=20
Get your =93accusations=94 right dear krylon.

Lynda did not say that M Cecil was a =93wicked=94 heretic. = But she did=20 say he was a =93heretic.=94 And that is a Christian thing to do = when someone=20 contradicts the Gospel of Christ.

St Paul said in the opening chapter of Galatians, =93If any = man bring=20 to you another Gospel that you have not received, let him be = anathema=20 (accursed.)=94

So Lynda was easy on M Cecil. And I agree with her = completely.=20 +bn
Brenda http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/juancarlos= cruz/gG5BSr#comment-1840=20
Loren, some very thoughtful comments.

I did find a deeper understanding about God=92s chosen people = when I=20 read and prayed over Romans 9, 10, and 11.

The Israel of the Bible is not the state of Israel today. = Jesus=20 Christ was the Fulfillment of the Old Law, He is the New = Covenant. Those=20 who keep the Old Law and refuse to accept Jesus Christ, the Only = Begotten Son of God, have lost their standing as God=92s chosen=20 people.

Here is just a partial excerpt of Romans 9:

An excerpt from the Jerusalem Bible, 1966 edition. . .

=93C. THE PLACE OF ISRAEL

The privileges of Israel

9. What I want to say now is no pretence; I say it in union = with=20 Christ =96 it is the truth =96 my conscience in union with the = Holy Spirit=20 assures me of it too. What I want to say is this: my sorrow is = so great,=20 my mental anguish so endless, I would willingly be condemned and =