Barack Obama Voted Four Times To Allow Criminal = Charges Against=20 Homeowners Who Defend Their Person and Home With a Gun
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In a victory for individuals across the nation, whether they know it =
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the Supreme Court has decided the 2nd amendment does do what it says -- =
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people the right to keep and bear arms. Barack Obama's
Despite Obama's propensity to say and do anything to get elected, =
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In fact, Barack Obama specifically voted four times in the Illinois=20 Legislature to allow criminal charges against a homeowner who used a = firearm in=20 self-defense of their person and home -- specifically what the Supreme = Court=20 says is a constitutional right. Obama may say he supports it, but his = record=20 says exactly the opposite.
Read on . . .
In 2004, the Illinois Senate considered S.B. 2165 (IL 2004), = sponsored by=20 Senator Ed Petka (R-Plainfield). The bill came about because of an = arrest in=20 Wilmette, IL in late December of 2003. A 54-year-old businessman shot = and=20 wounded a man who had broken into his home for the second time in 24 = hours. Cook=20 County prosecutors found the shooting justified, but the businessman, = Mr. DeMar,=20 faced a fine and possible destruction of two guns under a 1989 village = ordinance=20 prohibiting handgun possession.
S.B. 2165 would allow residents to use self-defense as a basis for = seeking=20 dismissal of criminal charges stemming from local gun ordinances if they = used=20 the banned weapon in an act of self-defense in their home, business or=20 property.
Obama voted no on third reading March 25, 2004, and voted no on = concurrence=20 to a House amendment on May 25, 2004. In fact, Obama voted no four = times: in the=20 Judiciary Committee, on Third Reading, in the Judiciary Committee's vote = on=20 concurrence with the House, and on the final concurrence.
Luckily for the people of Illinois, the legislation passed despite = Obama's=20 opposition. Had he had his way, people in Illinois could still be = prosecuted for=20 defending themselves against crimes.
But that's not the only time Obama has voted against the people's = right to=20 keep and bear arms.
In 1999, Obama voted in favor of S.B. 177 (IL 1999). The legislation = required=20 guns to be secured by trigger locks, placed in a lock box, or placed in = a=20 location that a reasonable person would believe to be secure from a = minor.=20 Likewise, in 2003, Obama voted for H.B. 2579 (IL 2003) for a law that = restricted=20 the rights of Illinois's citizens so that they could only buy one gun a = month.=20 The law created the offense of "unlawful acquisition of handguns."
In 2001, Obama voted against S.B. 604 (IL 2001), which would have = allowed=20 individuals who have valid orders of protection against other = individuals to=20 carry concealed weapons for their protection. The bill would have = created an=20 affirmative defense against a charge of violating Illinois's concealed = carry law=20 if the person had a lawfully issued protection order against someone = seeking to=20 do harm to the person.
In 2002, Obama voted against S.B. 397 (IL 2002), which amended the = Firearms=20 Owners Indentification Card Act. The legislation was specifically = crafted for=20 sporting events and allowed a non-resident participating in a sanctioned = competitive shooting event in Illinois to purchase a shotgun or shotgun=20 ammunition in Illinois, but only at the site where the event is being = held, for=20 the purpose of participating in the event.
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memory serves, he also by LanceKates =20
If memory serves, he also voted against legislation in his state that = would=20 make it a crime for people recently released from prison to associate = with=20 gangs.
If I remember his wording correctly, he said that such legislation = would make=20 it so that "no black person could talk to one another" or something = horridly=20 offensive like that.
Obama, consistantly, gives more rights and concern to criminals than = innocent=20 law-abiding citizens.
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Dependence is Slavery.
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my earlier post by Erick =
It's linked in this one at the top.
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would have been unconstitutional by shooflyguy68 =20
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, = or=20 prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of = speech, or=20 of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, = and to=20 petition the government for a redress of grievances.
There are laws that prohibit parolees from associating from criminals = as a=20 condition of their parole. However, if a person is no longer on parole, = you=20 cannot make it a crime for them to associate with whomever they=20 please.
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voted against a law by Erick =
That would prohibit gang members on probation from knowingly = gathering with=20 other gang members while on probation *if* such prohibition was a = condition of=20 probation.
Yeah,=20
I knew the bill was by LanceKates =20
Yeah, I knew the bill was something along those lines.
When I think "Defenders of the Constitution", Obama's name doesn't = spring to=20 mind.
Such a bill, if it had been passed, would still be much nicer than = what I'd=20 like to see happen to gangs.
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I stand corrected. by shooflyguy68 =20
As I mentioned in my post, that is a common condition for parolees.=20
please..=20
by Pentagon16 =20
tell me that SOMEONE at the RNC or McCain campaign reads this blog = and can=20 put together a tiny little advertisement letting the country know about = Obama's=20 votes..
I mean, he has flip flopped on abortion, gun rights, jerusalem, = talking with=20 Iran with no preconditions, Reverend Wright, energy policy and now the = Surge in=20 Iraq..
"Small town folks get bitter after which they cling to guns or = religion, or=20 antipathy to people who aren't like them, or anti-immigrant sentiment"- = Barack=20 Carter Obama
The=20
problem by kchand =
is that many of his supporters don't care. Understand, it's not so = much about=20 who he IS, it's about who he IS NOT.
That's=20
the problem with by LanceKates =20
That's the problem with "Anybody but" campaigns (or their variations = like "At=20 least he isn't..."). You end up with really crappy "Anybody But"s.
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a problem. by Crowe =
The ads wouldn't be aimed at those who have drunk the Kool-Aid and = wouldn't=20 be swayed by such ads, they would be aimed at the non-committed folks, = those who=20 are only recently tuning in or who haven't tuned in yet, or those Dems = who are=20 more conservative than the Washington Dem elite (see: Ohio rustbelt = union=20 folks). Those folks, if shown his rank hypocrisy and true positions on = issues=20 like gun rights would be a lot less likely to vote for him.
"Do not fear, only believe." (Mark 5:36)
Unfortunately=20
... by kchand =
it's like peeing in the ocean. You have a huge number of people and = systems=20 covering for BO.
The real attention grabber might well be gas prices. EVERYONE is = reminded as=20 their gas fill-ups push $100+ with no end in sight. Even the media can't = disguise that. They can only try to misdirect blame. Ahem .......... the = Dims=20 want to sue OPEC.
If voters cannot figure that out, the Repubs are doomed.
I'll=20
make a bold prediction by simpson316 =20
President Barack Obama will appoint justices (at least two) that will = threaten our right carry.
McCain for POTUS so the left can't ruin SCOTUS.
I'm=20
curious by The =
Fastest=20
Squirrel
Any of our attorneys care to hazard a guess whether those who are=20 incarcerated due to the DC ban (if there are any) now have an appeal? =
furthermore=20
by helveticus =20
Jan Greenburg's blog at ABC nails Obama on this case.
In the IL Sen he voted twice AGAINST a bill that would have allowed a = hand=20 gun in the home for self defense, after some guy used a gun in his house = as he=20 was robbed. Twice.
Now he says he's always believed in the individual right.
Check out this absurd quote:
Obama spokesman Bill Burton said Obama voted against the state-wide=20 self-defense law because he believed municipalities should be able to = pass=20 handgun bans if they thought the laws were necessary.
"Obama said at the time that he voted that way because he believed = that local=20 communities had the right to enact common sense gun laws, and did not = believe=20 that the Illinois legislature should preempt those local decisions,"
He's always believed in an individual right yet he supports a ban if = the=20 legislature thinks it necessary!! He supports the 2nd amendment but = thinks that=20 total bans are common sense gun laws and that they're consistent with an = individual right. I wonder what some of his common sense laws are = dealing with=20 1st amendment. Maybe he wants to ban jury trials or right to counsel or=20 confrontation as part of his common sense laws.
Can you imagine that in any other context? I've always supported = freedom of=20 speech but if Peoria wants to ban newspapers because they think it = necessary,=20 fine by me. Or, I've always supported free exercise of religion but if = Oak Park=20 wants to ban Christmas trees or menorahs in the home, be my guest.
And of course, we all know what he thinks of local decisions when it = comes to=20 abortion, school vouchers, sodomy rights, school prayer, and a whole = host of=20 other issues.
And this guy was actually President of the Harvard Law Review, the = most=20 prestigious academic journal in legal academy???
He wouldn't even pass a 1L class with that kind of awful reasoning. I = mean,=20 he makes Harriet Miers look like Learned Hand.
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, = undergo the=20 fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, = 1777