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A Tool Of Intimidation

Obots assign American citizens who have questions about Barack Obama and his goals to "The Fringe."  This intimidation technique is meant to diminish and discredit anybody who doesn't tow the Obama line.  It's another form of the "race card" trick.

 

As more and more people come to understand Obama's far-left agenda and mysterious background, they question his eligibility.  "The Fringe" is now composed of a huge segment of the American population -- and it is growing.

More And More Americans Want To Know

One of the favorite tactics of the political Left is to smear their political opponents.  They follow Alinsky's guideline -- "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon."  They ridicule, personalize and attack those they disagree with, because they can not, and will not, debate the issues.

The Left is unable to defend Obama's decision to hide his bona fides from the American People, so they attack anybody that dares to ask Obama to release his documentation.  One of their favorite tactics is to tar the questioner as a "Birther," or relegate the skeptic to the "fringe."

An AOL Poll that asks the question: "Do you think it's fair to question President Obama's citizenship?"

At 6 AM, on 12/6/09, the results were: 67% "Yes" -- 33% "No" -- and this is AOL, hardly a conservative website.

That's some fringe --  AOL visitors, by a factor of two-to-one, believe Obama should release his bona fides and end the controversy.

 

YouPolls.com has taken down their December 4th poll that asks the question, "Is Obama's birth certificate a valid question."  Obviously, they didn't like the respondents' answers -- 83% "Yes" -- 17% "No."

YouPolls.com is still running the one asking, "Is Obama a one term President?" -- 94? "Yes -- 5.7% "No" -- expect that one to disappear soon.


"Arkansas is the first of four states where we've polled the birther issue (Virginia, North Carolina, and Colorado were the others) and found less than half of respondents confident that Obama is a natural born citizen.  The numbers are particularly dramatic among Republicans with 49% saying Obama was not born here to just 23% who grant that he was."

Just 51% Of Americans Believe Obama Eligible
Bob Unruh is reporting that nearly 1/2 of U.S. citizens say Obama is not a "legitimate president."

A new poll -- conducted by the public opinion research and media consulting company Wenzel Strategies -- marking Barack Obama's one year as president reveals Americans are questioning his legitimacy to hold the office, fear his plans and doubt even his friends.

"Typically, a political figure in trouble from pursuing a radical agenda generally tacks to the political center, but there is no evidence that Obama is interested in following conventional wisdom on this point.  Democrats nationwide may face the fallout in November," warned Fritz Wenzel of Wenzel Strategies.

The poll revealed if the 2012 election were held today, Obama would come in second to an unspecified opponent.

The Wenzel poll was conducted by telephone from Jan. 14-17 using an automated telephone technology calling a random sampling of listed telephone numbers nationwide.  The survey included 30 questions and carries a 95 percent confidence interval.  It included 823 likely voters and has a margin of error of 3.65 percentage points.

Wenzel said voters have advanced in their opinions of the issue of Obama's legitimacy from some six months ago when most Americans said they were aware of the questions being raised.

When asked if they consider Obama a "legitimate president," 32.6 percent said no, and another 15.8 percent said they were not sure.  Barely half of the voters, 51.5 percent said they do consider Obama a legitimate president even though he has yet to produce a long-form birth certificate that would prove he was born in the U.S.

Continue reading here . . .
Poll Stories Of The Year -- Number 10 -- Rise of the Birthers
Have you heard of the questions that have been raised by some that Barack Obama should not be president because he has not provided a birth certificate that proves he was born on American soil as the U.S. Constitution requires?   He claims to have been born in Hawaii, while others cite records and statements that show he was born in Kenya.

The people demanding he prove his birth location have been tagged as "Birthers," and those who consider these questions inconvenient have tried to marginalize their opponents by ignoring them or ridiculing them (see Rule 5, here).

I hadn’t paid much attention to this issue myself, so I was surprised when the results to a WorldNetDaily/Wenzel Strategies poll in June showed that 49% -- essentially half of all American adults -- are not convinced that Obama meets the qualifications for the presidency!  Such a result wins this data point a spot at Number 10 on my Top Ten Countdown List for 2009.  It could easily be Number One -- but Obama has so far been able to deflect calls for him to prove his origins.  Pending court action may change that in 2010.

The polling data shows this is not just a Republican fetish.  Even among Democrats, almost one in every four -- 23%  said they were either troubled by these questions about Obama or that he should definitely release all records about the circumstances of his birth, including his long–form birth certificate -- if one exists -- to put this question to rest once and for all.  Even among independent voters, 52% said the same thing.

Men were slightly more likely than women to say Obama should produce his birth certificate, and people in Obama’s age cohort -- those in their 40s and 50s -- were much more likely than those younger and older to say the same thing.

When this question was asked back in June, Obama was riding high in public opinion polls and this issue was not much of a threat to Obama.  But now, Obama’s job approval rating is lower than any president has ever been at this early point in his term, and he is facing little or no improvement in the economy and is pushing an agenda that has proven quite unpopular with the American people.  In this circumstance, the Birthers have an issue that could prove very powerful, and the White House denials to produce definitive documentation proving his American birth only feed the movement.
Nearly 60% Say Obama’s Decisions Are Bad For America
CNSNews.com reports a majority of Americans believe an increased government role in health care would lead to more government corruption, while a plurality of Americans think that scientific data supporting man-made global warming is "mostly falsified."  That is what a new poll by Survey USA reveals.

The poll also shows that 58 percent of Americans believe that decisions by the Obama administration have been "bad for America," as opposed to 37 percent who think Obama’s decisions have been "good for America."

These poll numbers come at a time when Barack Obama is pushing for international agreement to address apparent global warming and is also advocating for a major overhaul of health care in America.

The poll of 1,450 adults by Survey USA was conducted Dec. 11-14, and was commissioned by the conservative government watchdog group Judicial Watch.  The poll asked questions on several topics, including government corruption, transparency, illegal immigration and the Association of Community Organizers for Reform Now (ACORN).

Continue reading here . . .
20% Of Voters Favor Impeachment
Public Policy Polling (PPP) has a whole slew of poll results -- none are good for Obama and his agenda -- but they slip this one in in the final paragraph:

20% of voters, including 35% of Republicans, support impeaching Obama for his actions so far.  PPP is not clear exactly what 'high crimes and misdemeanors' they are using to justify that position but there may be a certain segment of voters on both the right and the left these days that simply think Obama doing things they don't agree with is grounds for removal from office.
Obama's Eligibility Spreading As An Issue Among The States
Early 2010 and Bob Unruh is reporting that lawmakers in several state have jumped into fray, seeking answers to this constitutional question.

The demand for documentation of Barack Obama's eligibility to occupy the Oval Office is surging, with lawmakers in several states now working on legislation that could be used to require future presidential candidates to reveal precisely how they are qualified under the U.S. Constitution's demand for a "natural born citizen."

WorldNetDaily has reported on a bill co-sponsored by some three dozen lawmakers in Arizona who want to require candidates not only to submit the information, but state officials to independently verify the accuracy, and bill sponsor Rep. Judy Burges said she has started getting questions from other states who want details about the proposal.

A separate proposal has been created by a freedom of information action group in New York state, and now the National Conference of State Legislatures, which monitors and tabulates the work of legislative bodies, confirms through its database that several other plans are in the works.

Some of the proposals are very clear even without the full text.  In New Hampshire, for example, a pending plan would require "certified copies of birth certificates for nominees for president and vice president."

Others are a little more oblique.  In Georgia, for example, lawmakers propose a bill "relating to procedures for qualification of candidates generally, so as to require each candidate for public office to be in compliance with certain disclosure requirements."

There is no definitive word on what that would mean to presidential candidates.

An Indiana proposal is equally unclear, because it "authorizes a challenge to a candidate's eligibility to seek an office to be filed by a registered voter of the jurisdiction conducting the election."  It could apply only to local elections.

In Virginia, a summary says the proposal "provides that candidates shall provide evidence of their qualifications for office to have their names printed on the ballot.  The State Board of Elections shall provide a list of acceptable forms of evidence."

And in the New York state plan proposed by a freedom of information organization to state lawmakers would provide that "an individual seeking placement on the New York State's election ballot(s) for the office of president or vice president of the United States must present proof of eligibility, as per requirements that are stated in Article 2, section 1, paragraph 5 of the U.S. Constitution."

The proposals essentially are moving the same direction as a federal measure proposed by Rep. Bill Posey, R-Fla.

Continue reading here . . .

A Tool Of Intimidation

Obots assign American citizens who have questions about Barack Obama and his goals to "The Fringe."  This intimidation technique is meant to diminish and discredit anybody who doesn't tow the Obama line.  It's another form of the "race card" trick.

 

As more and more people come to understand Obama's far-left agenda and mysterious background, they question his eligibility.  "The Fringe" is now composed of a huge segment of the American population -- and it is growing.

Three-in-ten Americans
An October 23rd item reported that three-in-ten Americans think their current head of state was not born in the United States, according to a poll by Angus Reid Strategies.  70 per cent of respondents believe Barack Obama was born in the U.S., while 30 per cent do not.

 

While only 13 per cent of Democratic Party supporters believe Obama was not born in the U.S., the proportion rises to 25 per cent among Independents and 51 per cent among Republican Party backers.

31% Are Unsure
Goddard's Political Wire points to a new Public Policy Polling survey in Arkansas shows that only 45% of voters in the state say they believe Obama was born in this country, while 31% say they think he was not and 24% are unsure.

"Arkansas is the first of four states where we've polled the birther issue (Virginia, North Carolina, and Colorado were the others) and found less than half of respondents confident that Obama is a natural born citizen.  The numbers are particularly dramatic among Republicans with 49% saying Obama was not born here to just 23% who grant that he was."
Fox31 -- KDVR Denver Poll

Poll Question:  Do you agree with the Billboard's message?

 

A billboard in Wheat Ridge compares Barack Obama to a terrorist and questions his U.S. citizenship (view the billboard).

 

Do you agree with the message, disagree, or don't care?

 

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Agree (8294 responses) -- 90.4%

 

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Disagree (596 responses) -- 6.5%

 

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Don't Care (285 responses) -- 3.1%

 

9175 total responses

 

You may respond to the poll questions here -- Posted results are "as of" 11/24/09

Obama Was Not Born In U.S., Republicans Say
Three-in-ten Americans think their current head of state was not born in the United States, according to a poll by Angus Reid Strategies.  70 per cent of respondents believe Barack Obama was born in the U.S., while 30 per cent do not.

While only 13 per cent of Democratic Party supporters believe Obama was not born in the U.S., the proportion rises to 25 per cent among Independents and 51 per cent among Republican Party backers.

In American elections, candidates require 270 votes in the Electoral College to win the White House.  In November 2008, Democratic nominee Obama secured a majority of electoral votes, defeating Republican candidate John McCain.  In January, Obama became the first African American president in U.S. history.

Article II of the U.S. Constitution establishes that only "natural born" American citizens are eligible to become presidents.

Last year, the Obama campaign team released a Certification of Live Birth, which states that Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, on Aug. 4, 1961.  The State of Hawaii only allows for the release of an original birth certificate under "extenuating circumstances."

Earlier this month, former House majority leader Tom Delay discussed his views on Obama’s birth, saying, "Why wouldn’t the president of the United States show the American people his birth certificate?  You have to show a birth certificate to play Little League baseball.  It’s a question that should be answered.  It’s in the Constitution that you have to be a natural born citizen of the United States to be president."

Polling Data

As you may have heard over the last few months, there have been groups demanding to see President Obama’s birth certificate.  Do you believe that Obama was born in the United States of America or not?
    

All

Dem.

Rep.

Ind.

I believe he was born in the U.S.

70%

87%

49%

75%

I do not believe he was born in the U.S.

30%

13%

51%

25%

    
Source:  Angus Reid Strategies

Methodology:  Online interviews with 1,009 American adults, conducted from Oct. 15 to Oct. 17, 2009. Margin of error is 3.1 per cent.

30% is a pretty big "fringe."
 

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